CH having health issues?

June 17, 2010

At reddit.com there are comments on Hitchens having breathing issues at the airport. This would explain the cancellations. Hopefully it's nothing serious and more details would be available soon.

384 comments:

Tom said...

He's not 20 anymore and he has been giving interviews and traveled like crazy lately.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea who arranged the book tour schedule, but when I saw it online at twelve, my first thought was "they're trying to kill him..." He's already been going full throttle for a month.

Anonymous said...

the king is dead

Anonymous said...

It's not up to me to tell him how to behave but I would personally in his case try to lose some weight, lose much of the booze and not take up smoking again.

I hope he is well. We need him.

TitanicExolorer said...

I was there at the Brattle Theatre in Cambridge MA waiting for his June 16 appearance when the theatre manager told us the event was cancelled due to 'unforseen circumstances'. I hope Christopher is okay!

Anonymous said...

Probably just allergies. For the past week I have, off and on, been having asthma attacks. And I'm just like Christopher Hitchens. I smoke and drink and stuff. I'm just less intelligent and have never published anything. And no one knows my name. And I'm Canadian.

TitanicExplorer said...

Odd thing is the same thing happened to me last week- i thought I was having a heart attack, as I couldn't breath, but nowseem to be okay. I think Christopher quit smoking a few years back- He might need to take up exercise...

Anonymous said...

I think he mentioned in a recent interview that he has started to smoke again.

Personally to calm my nerves down a bit I meditate 1 hour 3-4 times a week...I don't consider it spiritual or anything..

Anonymous said...

I heard in an interview recently where he said that he had begun smoking again.

Anonymous said...

Good to know we followers of Hitchopher are also flabby booze hounds. AT LAST I HAVE FOUND MY COMMUNITY!

TitanicExplorer said...

I'm a flabby booze hound, and a huge Hitchens fan. I was sad he couldn't make his scheduled gig in Cambridge MA at the Brattle Theatre, but hope he takes some time off to relax. I was hoping to ask his opinion of the latest treasonous actions by his enemy George Galloway.

Anonymous said...

God is punishing him to stop him from spreading his atheistic religion, Hitchinism! Revel ye' all before the almighty! Satan has seduced him with the vices of drink and intelligence! :P

Anonymous said...

I dont see why his book schedule would hurt him too much. Its not like Hitchens prepares for these things. Traveling can be a nuisance but could it make him ill?

As for smoking, even after he quit he gave a funny answer where he listed all the positives of smoking and concluded with " come to think of it, why did i quit the fucking thing"

Hitchens has probably reached the level where abstaining from smoking and drinking would be more likely to make him ill than continuing with it ( like Billy Bones in treasure island).

Christopher Hitchens is one of an elite few who do a lot of good in the world, eg visiting places like Iran, Congo to try to help those who fight evil and playing a big part in trying to alert the world to the horrors of North Korea as well as speaking out against religion. I really hope he has many years left in him (and doesnt turn mad like Gore vidal)

Mike said...

When I attended his debate with Rabbi David Wolpe in Boston a couple of months ago, I arrived early and, to my surprise, standing outside the front door was Hitchens. He had a cigarette in one hand and a drink (presumably scotch) in the other. I remember worrying for his health then. I hope he's alright.

Anonymous said...

What CH does may appear "effortless", but it certainly is not. His schedule would exhaust most men half his age in a matter of days. Not to mention, in the last month, he's clocked more air miles than most flight crews. And don't forget the dozens of interviews and media appearances. And he's still writing his columns. It's too fucking much.

I hope Twelve will delay the tour and let him get some much needed rest. And the ciggies have got to go. They are not worth his life. If he can quit them for a year, he can throw them away for good.

TitanicExplorer said...

I live in Boston, so am absolutely kicking myself for having missed his recfent appearance in Boston, debating Rabbi David Wolpe.
Is Christopher friendly in person?
I really hope he's okay...Has he been hospitalized?
Is there any way to send a get well note?

Mike said...

TitanicExplorer,
Yes, he was quite friendly. We talked for several minutes and he graciously signed several books. I too went to the Brattle Theatre only to learn that the event had been canceled on 45 minutes' notice. I haven't heard anything about his situation beyond what I've read here.

Philipa said...

I found him utterly charming in person.

Elize said...

He "was" quiet friendly and "found" him charming? Did Hitchens die?

Anonymous said...

No...they are referring to a meeting that happened in the past, therefore, at that meeting Hitchens "was" quite friendly.

It'd be in the news if he died, and a quick google search shows no news stories as such.

As for the smoking, the most recent interview in the news with him that comes up in the aforementioned google search has him holding a "marlboro light" when the interviewer arrives.

Seems he's switched brands from Rothmans Blue to Marlboros, but, I digress.

FGFM said...

Anyone think that he'll make it to Portland on Wednesday? #hitchdeathwatch

Anonymous said...

Phillipa! FGFM! Hitchens Watch!CH's kook stalkers!!!! I must say, you guys are good for a laugh. But why such great concern about the Hitch? I thought you hated him.

The man is blessed by his enemies.

Oh, and DECENTDECENTDECENT!!!!LOL

Mark G said...

"Seems he's switched brands from Rothmans Blue to Marlboros, but, I digress." Noticed that also. An attempt perhaps to smoke a somewhat 'healthier' cig. I like Menthol lights myself. CHW takes an, um, interest in Hitch's health, so you shouldn't be surprised to see us over here. You might say the fate of the site depends on it.

Tarn said...

That Hitchens Watch website seems to be run by George Galloway apologists; all of whom hate and fear the great Christopher Hitchens. They seemed to make light of the fact he's sick. Very uncool.

One of my favorite phone interviews with Hitch was by Boston's Michael Graham, where Hitchens reacted to news of a Cambridge MA appearance by George Galloway, and detailed why Galloway is such a contemptable person. Few things i enjoy more than seeing/hearing Christopher Hitchens shred George Galloway.

Anonymous said...

Tarn, I think you're right. I think Galloway and his political allies pay for the site. The main poster seems to be some old half-baked Stalinist like Galloway.

I go there from time to time, just because they're entertaining, kind of like watching monkeys at the zoo. You never know what over the top accidently hillarious stuff they're going to post next. The Phillipa Chick has some type of weird fetish for Peter Hitchens, MarkG was a former student of C. Hitchens (and has "issues"), and who knows what psyche ward that FGFM guy is posting from. (If you go there today, FGFM has a "Hitchensdeathwatch" post. Sick fuck.)

FGFM said...

Q&A With Christopher Hitchens

Well, for these people, without running for something, whats life for? It would be like Prince Charles saying he doesn't want to be king after all. It means you've wasted your life. Of course, Gore didn't say he'd never run again, just not this time. Same mistake he made in 1992: I won't run this cycle, because I think Bush will win; Ill stay out and be better positioned for the next election. This is the same tactic Mrs. Clinton is taking. Well, this is despicable. I just hope they all get some sort of wasting disease before they can run.

Tarn said...

How does one reach Christopher Hitchens? I'd like to send him a get well card or email...

Anonymous said...

WoW. Let's add inability to distinguish Rhetorical from Literal to the FGFM profile. Like I said--a complete nut case. Spew that hate baby! Surely the Hitch would be disappointed to have anything less from a pathetic loser like you.(Actually, if you think anyone gives a crap what you think, you really are delusional.)

Mike said...

Tarn,
You can generally reach an author by sending a letter addressed to him in care of his publisher. Has it been confirmed, though, that he actually was ill?

Tom said...

No news yet but the cancellations indicates that something's going on.
Apparently Seattle June 22 is still on.

Tarn said...

Didn't he just give a radio interview? Perhaps he was told to get some rest- i suppose no news is good news- I hope he is okay...

Anonymous said...

FGFM might just be the dumbest and most awful person I have encountered on the internet. He thrives on people from the 'other side' (he has "decent" tourettes) going after him, so best just to ignore.

FGFM said...

"I think Galloway and his political allies pay for the site."

Decent has a theory! BTW, you Hitchens experts who are trying to contact him do know that he is listed in the Washington DC phone book, don't you?

Tom said...

FGFM is right, his address has never been a secret. You can look it up at addresses.com: 2022 Columbia Rd, NW, #701, Washington DC 20009. Phone:(202) 387-0246. It's the Wyoming building, if you know your way around D.C. Hitchens recently said that he never replies to mail or email, "I don't want to encourage fans".

Tarn said...

Thanks for the address Tom, I'll mail off a getwell card. Im sure Hitch is not overly sentimental about things like that, but I want to do it anyway. I'm very surprised for such a public figure his mailing address is known...

Whats to prevent a nut from Hitchens Watch to send him hate mail?

FGFM said...

"Whats [sic] to prevent a nut from Hitchens Watch to send him hate mail?"

Why bother?

Tarn said...

Yes FGFM, I had a typo, thank you for drawing attention to it.

Can i assume you are not a fan of Mr Hitchens?

FGFM said...

"Can i assume you are not a fan of Mr Hitchens?"

Decent detective.

Tarn said...

FGFM, shouldn't you be playing with your friends over at Hitchens Watch?

Poldy said...

HitchensWatch is actually a rather anti-Semitic (or anti-anti-anti-Semitic [or ante-anti-Semitic]) and deeply unpleasant place.

The MO seems to be to root around for some -itz or -ein or -man or -berg lurking in the background and then to blame it all on a Zionist conspiracy. The NWO is referenced frequently and without irony over there.

Anonymous said...

Poldy, that almost sounds LaRouchie in tone. They hate Hitchens too. Someone is obviously financing Hitchens Watch, and depends on useful idiots like FGMG to become regulars and keep it going.

FGFM said...

"FGFM, shouldn't you be playing with your friends over at Hitchens Watch?"

I'm on holiday.

FGFM said...

"HitchensWatch is actually a rather anti-Semitic (or anti-anti-anti-Semitic [or ante-anti-Semitic]) and deeply unpleasant place"

If that's the case, why did we say so little about the Helen Thomas situation and nothing about those Turks getting shot by the IDF?

FGFM said...

"Poldy, that almost sounds LaRouchie in tone. They hate Hitchens too."

Here I am with some of my colleagues

"Someone is obviously financing Hitchens Watch, and depends on useful idiots like FGMG to become regulars and keep it going."

The truth is out there.

Anonymous said...

"If that's the case, why did we say so little about the Helen Thomas situation and nothing about those Turks getting shot by the IDF?"

QED.

Xenophrenia said...

Looks like Seattle on the 22nd has now been canceled .... I hate not knowing what is actually going on when the initial posting sounded so bad ....

FGFM said...

"QED."

Indeed.

Anonymous said...

To quote Ebert, who rather indirectly nailed the pitiful FGFM with this passing apercu today, "the average venomous poster on a blog is an unmarried man, living alone, socially inept, unhappily employed. It's his escape."

Also, for the curious who would like a little empiricism along with big ol' E's theory, there is our champ's very own YouTube channel revealing in vertiginous, resonating depth exactly what a sad little fucked-up, interminably bemusing case FGFM is (caution: it is rather Buffalo Bill-ish, in both voice and grisly sociopathy):

http://www.youtube.com/user/FGFMinfo

He's like a foul-mouthed, severely autistic chubby-man in the grips of some indecipherable tantrum without, of course, the residual charm. Kinda fat too.

That being said, one wishes him well in this new Internet 3.0 age. He was born for Twitter, or Twitter was for him. In more civil days past, he would have been limited to hollering at passing couples, or disrupting town hall meetings; now, at least, he can let all that bilious cant really run. And, oh my, what an awful lot of it there is.

FGFM said...

To quote Ebert, who rather indirectly nailed the pitiful FGFM with this passing apercu today, "the average venomous poster on a blog is an unmarried man, living alone, socially inept, unhappily employed. It's his escape.

Except that I'm not the average venomous poster, Louie. And Ebert's a fat guy with no jaw who's butthurt about people criticizing him on the Internet.

Also, for the curious who would like a little empiricism along with big ol' E's theory, there is our champ's very own YouTube channel revealing in vertiginous, resonating depth exactly what a sad little fucked-up, interminably bemusing case FGFM is (caution: it is rather Buffalo Bill-ish, in both voice and grisly sociopathy):

Thanks for the plug, but I'm sorry that I haven't given you much material to pore over lately. I'm trying to pick up the slack over that the Chicago Reader.

He's like a foul-mouthed, severely autistic chubby-man in the grips of some indecipherable tantrum without, of course, the residual charm. Kinda fat too.

Some folks call it a sling blade, I call it a Kaiser blade...

Anonymous said...

"Ebert's a fat guy with no jaw who's [sic] butthurt [sic] about people criticizing him on the Internet."

Not anymore he ain't.

"Thanks for the plug, [sic] but [sic] I'm sorry that I haven't given you much material to pore [sic] over lately."

The Internet needs you.

"Some folks call it a sling blade, I call it a Kaiser blade..."

Living for one.

Anonymous said...

"Except that I'm not the average venomous poster"

How's life at Lake Woebegone?

FGFM said...

The Internet needs you.

Now more than ever.

Mark G said...

"Someone is obviously financing Hitchens Watch"

What gave it away? The shitty blogspot address? The drunken rants? The reckless use of profanity? All the embarrassing spelling and grammar mistakes? Multiple posts commenting on the same damn article?

Nah, unlike the "Marxist" Hitch ("I only write for money"), our motives are pure: comic fun and, of course, hatred.

Anonymous said...

Christopher Hitchens doesn't get hangovers. Hangovers get Christopher Hitchens.

Tom said...

"Due to unavoidable circumstances. He hopes to be able to reschedule" and "Hitchens had to attend to a personal matter" are the only statements by his publicist so far. Bloody annoying not knowing, isn't it?

Heywood Jeblome said...

Look at the eamil I got!

Christopher Hitchens' publicist has just informed us that Hitchens must regretfully cancel his appearance at Town Hall Seattle scheduled for Tuesday, 6/22/2010 due to unavoidable circumstances. He hopes to be able to reschedule.


May be he is taking care of a sick relative.

Heywood Jeblome said...

What gave it away?

The shitty blog...

Yes, the shitty blog. It's a shitty blog.

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

Tom said...

Yes but then there are the comments on reddit.com about health issues at the airport. One thing would explain the other.

Xenophrenia said...

I'm not sure annoying is the word I would use for - frustrating maybe. It really bothers me to see so many joke about his drinking when I have noticed in several recent videos that he appears not so much drunk as 'not right'. Noticed it when he was on Real Time first - almost appears to be in pain the way he sits. Have felt there is something wrong for awhile and people's attitude regarding a very likely cause upsets me. His drinking isn't necessarily a badge of honor if it's killing him is it?

Okay - I'm done ranting ... just wish we'd hear something - good or bad so this 'not knowing' would go away.

Heywood Jeblome said...

Yes but then there are the comments on reddit.com about health issues at the airport. One thing would explain the other.

Oh yes thats ture. May be he is sick then. His drinking is actually healthy because he said there was an article about red wine being good for choloesterol. I do worry about him smoking again though. There are NO benefits to that. And the less said about his drug-taking the better.

I have noticed in several recent videos that he appears not so much drunk as 'not right'. Noticed it when he was on Real Time first - almost appears to be in pain the way he sits.

It might just be haemmoroids. It's easy to get them at his age and erm...condition. Fortunately no one ever died of a haemmoroid.

I think!

FGFM said...

"His drinking is actually healthy because he said there was an article about red wine being good for choloesterol."

Pity that he's pounding a fifth of scotch a day.

Mark G said...

"Yes, the shitty blog. It's a shitty blog."

Can you read, pal? I wrote, "the shitty blogspot address" referring, of course, to the outdated, primitive, free website service known as Blogger or Blogspot. This might be the first time I've ever seen anyone actually cut a word in half in order to distort the meaning of someone else's words. Congrats, Sir!

Anonymous said...

FGFM is the internet version of Westboro Baptist Church.

But MarkG is the really sad case.Mark, why are you so obsessed with Hitchens hate? What has he ever done to you? I think you're suffering from Dennis Perrin syndrome.

Tom said...

Posting anonymously is allowed and will continue to be so but why don't all you 'Anonymous' make up a name or use your initials or something when posting? I don't really like commenting back to an 'Anonymous' myself. It can get a bit confusing when one doesn't know if it's one or ten people posting comments. Just a suggestion, you do as you please.

Tarn said...

I think Christopher looks pretty good for someone in their 60s, Sure, he put on some weight-but few people ion their 60s are fit..

Tarn said...

I was under the impression this blog has a positive view of Christopher Hitchens - yet I have noticed a number of CH haters are leaving postes...Would it be safe to say this blog is pro Christopher Hitchens, or neutral?

Hitchens Watch is clearly a 100% anti-Hitchens blog- They seem to hate Christoper AND Peter.
What did Peter do to earn their scorn?

Ron Santo said...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=christopherhitchenswatch

Mark G said...

He didn't do anything to me personally. I just hate the guy's views. I hate how he sold out his leftist principles and became an apologist for mass murder. And it annoys me that some people still fall for his essentially bogus show of erudition.

FGFM said...

"FGFM is the internet version of Westboro Baptist Church."

I am neither an attorney nor a clergyman.

FGFM said...

"Hitchens Watch is clearly a 100% anti-Hitchens blog- They seem to hate Christoper AND Peter.
What did Peter do to earn their scorn?"

Chris is a neocon and Peter is a reactionary, so what's not to hate? We do feel a little pity for Peter given that he's had to suffer his brother longer than the rest of us.

AMH said...

Mark G is more commonly known as Dim. Why Dim? Well, he once wrote a series of limericks, none of which was under a hundred syllables, which sounds harmlessly pathetic, but keep in mind that this active blogger also thought paedophilia consisted of underage children having consensual sex with each other - and was thus (and this was very much his own "thus") largely FOR it. (Presumably he thought the Catholic church's institutionalised child abuse involved very, very young priests, and very, very young nuns).

He's also of the opinion that American society is worse than that of North Korea (cuz o' cop brutality - as I said: Dim).

He is rather extravagantly, needlessly stupid, even for a very stupid person.

FGFM, on the other hand, is a more curious case. He is rather put-out that he had to endure such an ill-bred upbringing of crass underprivilege (his parents were just a bit shit, I guess: he oozes coarseness and resentment) and consequently looks on the Oxonian, nay, Balliolian stylings of Hitchens with a nauseating, conflicted admixture of envy and loathing. He is an angry, angry man, almost constantly online (be warned), and relentlessly unironic (tone-deaf, literal, trés Queensbury). He spends a horrid proportion of his life posting "indeed" or "Decent" and a variety of perplexing acronyms of his own construction on message boards. He speaks almost entirely in pre-cast catchphrases. He is purely semiological, like a lesser-ape - semantically under-developed. I suppose one could sum him up with the sad truth that he is a committed YouTube commenter.

It's occasionally fun to poke and prod him a bit and watch him collapse into his autistic caterwauls of confusion, but don't ever make the mistake of interacting with him on anything other than a detached, anthropological level; he's just another example of the rabid fauna ranging about the Internet.

All in all, the HitchensWatch crowd is an unseemly mix of conspiracy nuts, anarchists, thick-fucks, antisemites, Mexican-haters, and assorted other paranoids. Don't be surprised if they spill over from their site, or from Rense.com or JewWatch or 911Truth or other such simpatico slums, onto here; paranoia, after all, is nothing if not energetic.

Tarn said...

Thanks Ron..
Oh god, 9/11 truther crackpots gather on Hitchens Watch? That explains everything. The moment someone argues 9/11 was an inside job, they immediately discredit themselves on having credibility on any subject. Leave it to the them to argue that we either brought 9/11 on ourselves or assert that Bush did it...I like how Christopher Hitchens lays the blame where it belongs- with the rabid Islamic fascists.
As an athiest, I abhore all religious cults, but their cult is a particulalry violent one..

I hope Hitch gets well soon, and continues to speak out against the Galloways of the world...

Ron Santo said...

Mark G came by "Dim" honestly. Some enemy poster gave him the nickname. Mark G missed the reference to A Clockwork Orange and vigorously protested that he was far too smart for the nickname. Somebody eventually pointed out the reference to Mark G. He then claimed to have read the novel in the original Russian.

Anonymous said...

"He then claimed to have read the novel in the original Russian."

Oh, dear Dim. That is superbly hilarious.

FGFM said...

FGFM, on the other hand, is a more curious case. He is rather put-out that he had to endure such an ill-bred upbringing of crass underprivilege (his parents were just a bit shit, I guess: he oozes coarseness and resentment) and consequently looks on the Oxonian, nay, Balliolian stylings of Hitchens with a nauseating, conflicted admixture of envy and loathing. He is an angry, angry man, almost constantly online (be warned), and relentlessly unironic (tone-deaf, literal, trés Queensbury). He spends a horrid proportion of his life posting "indeed" or "Decent" and a variety of perplexing acronyms of his own construction on message boards. He speaks almost entirely in pre-cast catchphrases. He is purely semiological, like a lesser-ape - semantically under-developed. I suppose one could sum him up with the sad truth that he is a committed YouTube commenter.

Actually, I gave up on YouTube commenting after they changed the system. Interesting theories, however!

FGFM said...

"[Mark G] then claimed to have read the novel in the original Russian."

I took a speed-reading course and read 'War and Peace' in an hour. It's about Russia.

FGFM said...

"Oh god, 9/11 truther crackpots gather on Hitchens Watch? That explains everything."

There's only one, but he happens to be our best writer. You go to war with the army you have, you know.

Tom said...

Tarn,
This is a pro Hitchens blog and all comments are welcomed. Free speech all the way (with the usual exceptions; children or animal cruelty). Nothing strange with CH watchers commenting here. We do blog about the same subject after all. I'm sure there are the occasional pro Hitch comments over at CHW as well.

Anonymous said...

"I'm sure there are the occasional pro Hitch comments over at CHW as well."

Generally, they delete or edit them. They were over-run with people laughing at them ("trolls", in their lexicon) and had themselves a purge, or old-fashioned pogrom, if you will.

Tom said...

"Generally, they delete or edit them"

CHW, say it ain't so.

FGFM said...

"They were over-run with people laughing at them ("trolls", in their lexicon) and had themselves a purge, or old-fashioned pogrom, if you will."

All of four people, but I'm happy you see that you boys have found an outlet for your frustrations.

Mark G said...

Scumbags, if you're going to at least pretend to follow me closely (for whatever peculiar reasons) try to get *some* shit right, please.

A Clockwork Orange - the original Russian? WTF are you talking about "Ron Santos"?

Mark G said...

"Generally, they delete or edit them."

Tom, "Generally" the opposite is true: CHW does not delete or edit comments. CHW NEVER deletes or edits comments that are merely pro-Hitchens.

Over the years, however, there have been cases where certain trolls, like a couple featured on this thread, came on to the site solely to, well, troll: harass and stalk other commenters, engage in personal, threatening attacks and basically try to sabotage the site. These people were not sidelined for writing pro-Hitchens commentary, which is always welcomed at CHW.

FGFM said...

Our friend Louie, who posted that Oxonian/Balliolian claptrap, previously used around a hundred different anonymizers in an attempt to get around his ban. He also sent a weepy lament about how we were supposedly censoring him for being Jewish when it was simply a case of Haloscan being down for maintenance one weekend.

Anonymous said...

That, and Greywolf called me a kike.

FGFM said...

Nobody's perfect.

Ron Santo said...

"Ron Santos"? Heresy. You should consult brother-in-arms FGFM immediately, Mark, before you make another egregious error like that.

It's true I haven't followed your Hitchens hating very closely. You worshipped him once, now you hate him. Of that much I'm sure. A few lost hours on that website of yours revealed that you claim to know Russian and to like PG Wodehouse. Or perhaps I have that backwards. As I stated, I don't follow your "work" closely. I do seem to remember you having a colossal shitfit once upon a time because some Hitchens acolyte banned you from slate.com's or national review's or something like that's website. You howled about the first amendment, free speech, etc. Now you do the banning, huh? Shows them, I guess.

P said...

Do let's not forget the farrago of fury and indignation into which Dim whipped himself because he was quite rightly fired from his job for his inability to desist from insulting co-workers in that inimitably discombobulated fashion of his and his general and assorted other incompetences.

Stalinisn, I believe, is to what he likened that understandably exasperated employer of his, before he ultimately stole from them, or maybe that was after; I'm not quite sure of the chronology.

Classy and self-aware crowd, those HWers.

I do dearly hope, Dim, that you didn't try and teach them limericks.

Mark G said...

Ron Santo the baseball player? God, you're hopeless. I'm not going to bother except to say that I've never banned anyone from the CHW.

P, it's true that I went to war with the administration of the American University of Iraq on matters of principle. (I'm assuming that's the employer you're referring to.) It's not as if I had any intention of staying. And I got the revenge I wanted with my article in Counterpunch. They're going down, anyway.

FGFM said...

The Slugger

Toe-to-toe with diabetes or Durocher, RON SANTO doesn't back down.

L said...

Revenge is a dish best served copy-edited, I would have thought.

Mark G said...

"Revenge is a dish best served copy-edited, I would have thought."

ooh! Them's big words coming from a man who calls himself L. Glad you're at least reading my stuff.

Ron Santo said...

Damn straight, FGFM. Your appreciation of his challenges makes a mockery of the lout above who said your site was crass and cruel enough to have a Hitchens "death watch". No one who appreciates Ron Santo's courage could be so senseless and immature. And I'm glad to read, via Mark G, that your site doesn't ban anyone. From my limited exposure there you guys specialize, alomst exclusively, in ad hominem attacks against Hitchens. Fair enough since you're obviously aware
that pro-Hitchens types will repay like with like. Just like Hitchens, you can take it as well as you dish it out. Shame on these "anonymous" types for hinting otherwise and accusing you of banning and cruelty to the suffering, etc. "Trolls" is too noble a word for them.

L said...

You never fail to amuse, Mark, I'll give you that much. You are the Benny Hill of hackery, however obliviously.

L said...

My favourite was when FGFM appealed to The Sage (the antisemite and paranoid truther with whom FGFM proudly stands shoulder to shoulder while wishing ill-fortune and death on a sixty-year old father) in his pre-banning baton days to ban me for calling him, quite appositely, "autistic" and "ill-bred" on the grounds that HW has "house-rules" (i.e No Yids or Mexicans).

I've said it before: I've met corvids with more self-awareness than FGFM.

Mark G said...

BTW, L, I'm not the only person with a conscience that felt compelled to go to war against AUI-S. Introducing, AUI-S Watch: http://www.auiswatch.blogspot.com/

Not my work, though I'd be proud of it.

L. said...

Christ, no wonder the place is in such straits if they keep employing sub-literates. I imagine that rancid little community college that FGFM spat his way through even had higher standards than that (though evidently lacking the nous to impart them).

But, sure, Mark: from your perspective I can imagine how that would be a source of pride.

Mark G said...

Only an asshole would completely ignore the substance of AUI-S Watch and instead attempt to start a pissing contest over grammar use. But then again, you are an asshole. Do you have anything interesting to say about yourself, your views of Hitchens, the war in Iraq? I don't know, anything, aside from trying to insult other unknown Internet people?

FGFM said...

"I've said it before: I've met corvids with more self-awareness than FGFM."

The man who spoke to crows.

FGFM said...

"But then again, you are an asshole."

And an Internet scientist who doesn't know freshman calculus.

L said...

Was that directed at me or FGFM, Mark?

FGFM, again I see, is struggling with rudimentary semantics.

FGFM said...

"FGFM, again I see, is struggling with rudimentary semantics."

What's the second derivative of a parabola, Mr. Internet Scientist?

Mark G said...

Actually, L, why don't you apply for a job over at AUIS? I'm sure you could straighten everything out, with all of your talent. Do it for the Hitch.

L said...

Just Google it, you furious little autist:

http://www.atmpage.org/contrib/Brown//MirrGeom/MirrGeom.html

Mark, why would I, with all this talent?

Tarn said...

There seems to be some hostility floating about- is this just about the pro-Hitchens vs the anti Hitchens factions, or is there something else? I tend to ignore the Hitchens bashers that I meet in life, as they tend to be apologists for militant Islam, America-haters and and 9/11 truther nutcases. Ever try debating a 9/11 truther? Those loons leave logic and reason at the door. One reason I abandoned the far left to be a centrist is because 9/11 truther moonbattery infests countless liberal blogs (democratic Underground, Huffington post, etc), or they just claim we deserved the 9/11 and july 7 attacks.

FGFM said...

"Just Google it, you furious little autist"

Nice bluff, but just give me the second derivative of a parabola in plain English. It's not all that complicated.

FGFM said...

Tarn, how does it feel to be a Masshole?

Mark G said...

"Mark, why would I, with all this talent?"

You're right: your talent is much more effectively applied trolling obscure websites as opposed to educating young Iraqis and straightening out AUI-S. I'm sure they'd hire you as their recruiter, though. I can send you some emails.

Tarn,

The hostility, as usual, was initiated by L our Louie or whatever he calls himself. He spends an unhealthy amount of time attacking those of us who write for CHW. I don't recall him actually defending Hitchens - he just attacks us - but I assume he's pro-Hitch.

L said...

Here's the breakdown:

CHW is primarily run by Greywolf - a self-confessed truther and conspiracy nut (and big Rense fan), and, not quite as self-confessedly, an "anti-anti-anti-Semite", as the formulation goes. He says things such as Jack Straw speaks with forked-tongue and should be taken as a liar and Zionist shill until proven otherwise because he has part Jewish heritage and potential Israel connections and blah NWO blah Zionist blah Neocon blah blah blah....the usual sordid horseshit.

FGFM and Mark G, the hangers-on, are just obnoxious and thick associates, respectively (though there is some significant overlap) who more have psychological or personal grievances against Hitch, though they let all the truther and antisemitic stuff easily and unmolestedly slide as long as the mouthpiece is sufficiently anti-Hitchens for their tastes. FGFM just flings shit about like a lesser-ape without ever troubling himself with attempting a cogent thought; Mark, on the other hand, does, which, indeed, is often equally shitty.

A horrible bunch, really. And it's not hostility so much as bemusement grading into contempt.

I'm not quite sure you realise quite what a sordid shithole HitchensWatch actually is.

As a former co-"troll" choicely put it (who, incidentally, was banned for being really rather, and much, funnier than they could manage):

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=christopherhitchenswatch

Also, I don't like being called a kike. That does tend to wrankle.

That being said, I think Hitchens is invariably entertaining, witty, and erudite, even when he's very wrong. And I look forward to a future as a constructive and entertaining poster.

Yours sincerely,
Mr. Internet Scientistein.

FGFM said...

Louie, I don't see why anyone would think that you're obsessed with us.

L said...

Caw, caw, caaaaaaaaaaaaaw.

FGFM said...

"Caw, caw, caaaaaaaaaaaaaw."

Sorry, that's not the second derivative of a parabola.

L said...

Vida supra, Babbit.

FGFM said...

Tell me the solution in plain English, fraud. I know you can't do it, but yet it's so simple. Hitchens always does seem to attract dilettantes!

Mark G said...

Greywolf is indeed the de facto leader of CHW. And I'm proud of it. First of all, he's one of the nicest guys on the Internet. A perfect antidote to nasty pricks like L. GW is also, in my opinion, wittier and certainly funnier than, yes, Hitch. Third, Grey thoroughly and persuasively defends his controversial views. And even when you don't agree with him, you have to admire his writing style which is wit minus the self-seriousness. As for the charges of anti-Semitism, I call bullshit. I've read all the exchanges, and I just don't see it.

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Tarn said...

The clashing personalities here reminds me of a Star Trek blog I used to frequent where old series fans had flame wars with Next generation fans. I was banned because I voiced an opinion that the Borg were shameless ripoffs of the Cybermen

Anonymous said...

CH has canceled the Commonwealth Club on the 24th. I wish his PR people would give some slight indication of what's going on.

L said...

What a funny little fellow you are; as an Internet Scientist, mathematics, the language of semanticless abstraction, is my first language; a language I care not to pollute. As a soul who equally struggles with the intricacies of the English language (I imagine you look at Kanzi and weep) I can rest assured your sympathies are deep and wide.

Also, the fucking articel has it explained in plain English, you immortal arse.

Also, Babbitt, Hitchens himself is a bloody dilettante. Terry Schiavo was, after she wasn't, so she still is, much more perceptive than you.

Caaaaaaaaaaaaaautistic.

FGFM said...

The clashing personalities here reminds me of a Star Trek blog I used to frequent where old series fans had flame wars with Next generation fans.

Fascinating, Captain.

FGFM said...

What a funny little fellow you are; as an Internet Scientist, mathematics, the language of semanticless abstraction, is my first language; a language I care not to pollute. As a soul who equally struggles with the intricacies of the English language (I imagine you look at Kanzi and weep) I can rest assured your sympathies are deep and wide.

Excuses, excuses. It's freshman calculus and you can't answer the question.

"Also, the fucking articel [sic] has it explained in plain English, you immortal arse."

No, it does not. The answer can be expressed in two or three words. You are a fraud.

FGFM said...

"I wish his PR people would give some slight indication of what's going on."

He's dead, Jim.

L said...

Yeah, sorry about all the nonsense, Tarn. I saw these fools were saying really quite horrible things about wishing death and decay on an old man here and I really couldn't resist (as couldn't...Peter is it? - some other co-troll, I imagine; the baseball reference seems Seamus-y but lacks the general regalness).

They cheered on that fascist reprobate when he beat down a sixty-year old alcoholic and alcohol-less Hitchens in Lebanon (positively rejoiced, they did), but that was after the fact, and this is just, well, crass, coarse, vulgar, and hateful. They are cretins.

L said...

FGFM, I am the passing train; catch that mailbag!

FGFM said...

I saw these fools were saying really quite horrible things about wishing death and decay on an old man here and I really couldn't resist

Christopher Hitchens' Unusual And Radical Life

SIMON: Used to be a saying among the left: Death to the fascist insect who preys upon the lifeblood of the people.

Mr. HITCHENS: Indeed.

L said...

These troublesome, troublesome words and all there particular meanings. They do ever so confuse you, FGFM, don't they?

Continually Ctcl-c/Ctrl-v-ing has you in a real contextless middle.

Buy yourself a fat ol' OED, sit down, and get yourself some understanding.

Rampaging Rhinos and antisemites have more nuance than you - and that ain't much.

Anonymous said...

Here comes the witless and forever sick and [sic]-ing average venomous Internet poster.

Mark G said...

Oh yeah, L, we're the bad guys and you're the upstanding citizen just exercising his moral authority, spreading sweetness and light to the uninformed. Phony sanctimonious dick that you are, you probably believe that crap.

In fact, you started attacking me on this thread before I said anything negative about Hitchens. My initial comments about Hitch's health were inquisitive and neutral. Then you decided to go on your little rampage.

FGFM said...

These troublesome, troublesome words and all there [sic] particular meanings. They do ever so confuse you, FGFM, don't they?

Yeah, but fortunately I learned calculus back in college which allows me to make a good living.

Buy yourself a fat ol' OED, sit down, and get yourself some understanding.

Thanks, but I'd rather buy some OE.

L said...

Mark, Sir - Dear Dim -, it's bloody raining pennies.

Ron Santo said...

Mark,

If someone "thoroughly and persusaively defends his controversial views" ala this Greywolf character (these views, I take it to mean, and generously, are 1) that the only possible chain of events that could not have brought down the twin towers and damaged the Pentagon on 9-11-2001 is the generally accepted explanation that a score of highly trained and motivated young Arab jihadists, w/ logistical and tactical support from a resourceful network of other Arab and Passhto jihadists, were responsible, and 2) that the geo-political influence of a particular group of religious believers is disproportinate and dangerous to humankind), how can you disgree with him? You allow for the possibilty, but that must be nonsense. A thorough and persuasive defense of a position simply must carry the argument, as any dialectician knows. Only corruption and/ or irrationality allows for disagreement with a thorough and persuasive argument. This Greywolf must be less thorough and persuasive than you say. Or, to the extent you disagree with him on a given issue, you must be corrupt and/or irrational. Which is it?

L said...

He's a fucking idiot. He's Dim.

FGFM said...

It's 1 AM in Paris, do you know where your Decent is?

Mark G said...

Ron,

Naturally, I don't think I'm either irrational or corrupt. However, I don't feel like getting into a debate over the issues you bring up at the moment. I encourage you to read Greywolf yourself as he speaks for himself much better than I ever could. I tend to side with Greywolf's allegedly wacky views, but the truth is, I'm 'agnostic' on the 9-11 question: I don't believe in the conventional narrative which you have outlined, but I don't deny the possibility that it is indeed the case. I am still open-minded on the 'who was actually behind it' debate and am content to absorb ongoing discussion, debate and information as it comes in. More than anything else, I abhor the attempt to smear anyone who would dare question the official narrative. After all, if there's nothing to the conspiracy theories, then why the hell should they bother anyone?

Mark G said...

"He's a fucking idiot. He's Dim."

Good comeback, champ. You can't even come up with your own insults and instead have to use Seamus's over and over and over again. You owe Seamus a blowjob, at least.

Anonymous said...

Wondrous moment.
(To ***)

The wondrous moment of our meeting...
I well remember you appear
Before me like a vision fleeting,
A beauty's angel pure and clear.

In hopeless ennui surrounding
The worldly bustle, to my ear
For long your tender voice kept sounding,
For long in dreams came features dear.

Time passed. Unruly storms confounded
Old dreams, and I >from year to year
Forgot how tender you had sounded,
Your heavenly features once so dear.

My backwoods days dragged slow and quiet --
Dull fence around, dark vault above --
Devoid of God and uninspired,
Devoid of tears, of fire, of love.

Sleep from my soul began retreating,
And here you once again appear
Before me like a vision fleeting,
A beauty's angel pure and clear.

In ecstasy the heart is beating,
Old joys for it anew revive;
Inspired and God-filled, it is greeting
The fire, and tears, and love alive.

1825

xxx

FGFM said...

You can't even come up with your own insults and instead have to use Seamus's over and over and over again.

It's easier than learning calculus.

FGFM said...

Wondrous moment.

"I'm a poet; I know it; hope I don't blow it. Semicolon alert!" - FGFM Zimmerman

Mark G said...

Not that it's a clever insult. I mean, not very subtle, what? Uh, Dim from A Clockwork Orange. Yeah. It means dim. As in, stupid. Get it? Ha ha. You're stupid. If that's the best the Hitch fanboys can generate, then us critics must be on to something.

Mark G said...

Stark Winds
And Sunset over the Moors
Why?
Whither?
Whence?
And the sound of distant drums...

Tarn said...

It's pretty freaking odd that so many appearances have been canceled, yet no specific reason had been given. Hasn't he given a couple of radio interviews in the interem? For all i know CH is either at home in Washington DC with his feet kicked up and relaxing, or is unconcious in a hospital bed.

Heywood Jeblome said...

Can you read, pal? I wrote, "the shitty blogspot address" referring, of course, to the outdated, primitive, free website service known as Blogger or Blogspot.

Hey! I have a name, pal!

Your websight has a donation button. Why don't you use your funds to egt a better blog place?

Tarn said...

I had something of a pain in the gulliver ...

L said...

I'm betting the doctor told him, among other things, he needs some rest. Hence Slate column, odd few radio interviews, but no appearances.


Amirite, Babbitt? Can I get an autistic plashy-seal-slap-seel of logic on that, you cretinous ol' non-human? No? Go fuck yourself then.

Anonymous said...

Tarn, I can't find anything that has been produced or recorded since the incedent on the plane. Even the humerous Assylum interview was recorded before the tour started.

Mark G said...

Tarn,

It is very suspicious, esp. since his Slate column still came out on Monday. Do you think he dictated it from his hospital bed? Something is clearly amiss. This is unprecedented behavior for CH.

Mark G said...

Is that a Christian name?

"Why don't you use your funds to egt a better blog place?"

We send all of our proceeds to the victims of Hitch's wars. CHW is content as a non-profit.

L said...

Hey, Seamus is a funny guy. Dim - the sobriquet - has timbre, concision, felicity, a Carrolian absurdist charm. It works.

Mark, you're deeply, dippily, unimprovably Dim.

Heywood Jeblome said...

Is that a Christian name?


Is what a Christian name?

Do you hate Hitchens for his valid criticisms on Christianity, Mark?

Also, you told someone that they lied abotu you for sayig that you claimed to read Clockwork Orange in the original Russian BUT you didn't deny thinking paedophilia was consensual sex between children or that you were FOR it?

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!

Did you really do that?

Mark G said...

L,

But if I'm so Dim, then how do I keep getting high test scores and scholarships and stuff? Just lucky? I don't place a lot of significance in these things but they do seem to clash with your assessment of me. Are you an Oxford dean or something?

Heywood Jeblome said...

We send all of our proceeds to the victims of Hitch's wars. CHW is content as a non-profit.


I suppose it is good of you to send your cash to charity. How much do you usually make and where do you send the proceeds?

Mark G said...

"Also, you told someone that they lied abotu you for sayig that you claimed to read Clockwork Orange in the original Russian..."

Idiot. A Clockwork Orange was written in English. It contains English versions of Russian words. Get with the fucking program or stop bothering me.

Heywood Jeblome said...

A Clockwork Orange was written in English.

I KNOW!

It contains English versions of Russian words.

You mean "English words"?

L said...

It starts like this, Heywood Jeblome. Someone was detailing to Mark why anarchism won't work, his response was:

""Arson"

No cause for this since there's no insurance.

"Bribery. Burglary."

No cause for this since money no longer matters.

"Child Pornography"

Is it a crime for children to have sex? In my opinion, children should start having sex as soon as they're able to - puberty.

"Computer Crime"

Now that's a real doozy. What could they possibly mean by this? Jacking off to porn? Swiping someone's laptop at a Starbucks? What does this mean, JQ?"


And then, it gets even better (all faithful quotes from Mark):

"Child pornography literally means children having sex. Usually between the ages of 12 and 17. Do you have a problem with that?

Child abuse is when an adult physically hurts a child.

Do you see the difference now?"

And then:

"Well, I always thought 'child pornography' was defined as sexual acts committed between boys and girls, aged 12 to 17. But apparently, the term pornography (which comes from prostitution) now suggests a public display of sex acts. No, I don't believe teen sex should be displayed publicly."

And:

"You wouldn't ever rape a baby, JQ, nor would (or has) anyone, because it offers absolutely zero satisfaction to the aggressor.

Now, if you're talking about a father raping his daughter, then we're getting more serious, but there's practically nothing the police can do now to prevent this from happening anyway. We would have to rely on family members and neighbors to intervene. Like in the old days."

And on and on and on - he's a fucking and utter and total moron.

The full glorious detail of his ignorance is available here:

http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fchristopherhitchenswatch.blogspot.com%2F2009_07_01_archive.html&title=Hitchens%20Watch%3A%20July%202009&path=%2F8272529065407834948&standalone=no&scoring=yes&backwards=no&sort=date&thread=yes&permalink=http%3A%2F%2Fjs-kit.com%2Fapi%2Fstatic%2Fpop_comments%3Fref%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fchristopherhitchenswatch.blogspot.com%252F2009_07_01_archive.html%26path%3D%252F8272529065407834948&skin=echo&smiles=no&editable=yes&thread-title=Echo&popup-title=Echo&page-title=Hitchens%20Watch%3A%20July%202009

They banned everyone soon after.

Lunatics, racists, and idiots.

Mark G said...

No, dipshit. I meant exactly what I said: English versions of Russian words. For example, 'moloko' which means milk in Russian and also milk in the movie.

Ron Santo said...

Like Mark G on 9-11, I'm agnostic as to whether he ever said he read A Clockwork Orange in the original Russian. It's really funny and proof that he didn't won't matter, because I like the cut of this guy- what's his name? Sergius?- who said it's jib. He seems cool. So I'll back him up. Just like Mark thinks that greywolf is cool, so he backs him up on 9-11 nuttery. Fair, right?

Mark G said...

It's astonishing to me that the L train spends so much time focused on distorting my words. I do wish you would stop cutting and pasting stuff out of context, L. It makes no sense, for one thing. If you want my views on something, just ask me. These 'gotcha' type attacks don't work on obscure websites because we don't have to worry about perceptions. I'm perfectly content with my beliefs on all subjects and am willing to share them with any honest reader who is interested.

Heywood Jeblome said...

No, dipshit. I meant exactly what I said: English versions of Russian words. For example, 'moloko' which means milk in Russian and also milk in the movie.



The "English version" of "moloko" is "milk". Not "moloko".

BTW, Bwahahahahahahahahahahah and LMFAO about your ideas on "child pronograpgy".

I also thuink you're being paid. By Christopher Hitchens. Bwahahahahahahahaha!!

L said...

I copied whole paragraphs of your ignorant, scholarship boy (this is either minatory, or bullshit).

You're truly, utterly, and indefensibly an idiot. Counterpunch, if they weren't already a joke, would be, well, laughable.

Do please write me a limerick, and prove your scholastic worth. I'd ask for a double-dactyl, but I'm pretty sure you'd have a seizure.

What an ignorant disgrace to humanity you are. You should verily be ashamed, but, again, you are to arrogant to realise what a horrid idiot you are.

FGFM said...

Hey, Seamus is a funny guy.

But looks aren't everything.

Dim - the sobriquet - has timbre, concision, felicity, a Carrolian absurdist charm. It works.

Yeah, I saw it in a movie.

FGFM said...

They banned everyone soon after.

It's so crowded that no one goes there anymore.

Mark G said...

"What an ignorant disgrace to humanity you are."

psychological projection much? Have another drink, asshole.

FGFM said...

I'd ask for a double-dactyl, but I'm pretty sure you'd have a seizure.

Just like dear old Hitch.

Ron Santo said...

Mark G has achieved nirvana- perfect contentment. Content to be agnostic about 9-11, content to be confused about the ways and varieties of child abuse, content to be indifferent to objective evidence of his intellect (aka scholarships) content to be obsessed with Christopher Hitchens. Honest readers, change Dim to Buddha.

L said...

OK, Mark, budding, or realised, scholar, or however you wish to realise yourself. Have you changed your views of child pornography since? Perhaps guzzled down some education and humility like a fat French goose? Or are you still rocking along in your bullshit-wagon of self assurance?

Personally, I would at least change my name if I had embarassed myself that badly, irrevocably.

FGFM: go back to calling middle-aged women "stupid cunts" on Twitter, you horrible, angry, charmless little man.

[All errors are intentional and the volition of genius]

FGFM said...

content to be obsessed with Christopher Hitchens

(whistles)

Ron Santo said...

FGFM-

Krusty The Klown wants his hairpiece back. Beats your earlier Woddy Allen plagirism, though. That was slightly amusing, but all at your expense.

FGFM said...

FGFM: go back to calling middle-aged women "stupid cunts" on Twitter, you horrible, angry, charmless little man.

Is your mother around?

FGFM said...

Krusty The Klown wants his hairpiece back. Beats your earlier Woddy Allen plagirism, though. That was slightly amusing, but all at your expense.

You may be right.

Mark G said...

"Bwahahahahahahahaha!!"

Heywood, if you use this trite expression of letters just one more time, I might have to come after you. What is your address? Let's square off, laughing boy.

L said...

Keep screaming into the void, FGFM. I'm sure someone cares. I, at least, will always be there to laugh mirthlessly, and then chastise myself for it.

Twitter. FGFM. It's comical. I feel there should be an offical ceremony or something.

Going around calling people you don't know cunts and hurling abuse at more popular souls. Truly, she was your sleeping beauty. YouTube was just a some fearful milk-maid taken by force in a rickety barn. This knee-trembler is love.

"Cunt". Stay classy, you ill-bred, vulgar, angry, angry, angry, little man.

Mark G said...

I really don't want to be carrying on like this, but L's libelous depiction of my views on certain issues have evidently spread.

Ron writes,

"content to be confused about the ways and varieties of child abuse"

Fuck you, Ron. All I said was that teenagers should feel free to have sex with each other, under the age of 18. I never said it was okay for men to abuse underage women. This is a ludicrous fabrication concocted by L - shame on you for participating.

L said...

Mark! You do know that HitchensWatch (ostensibly - the reality is old-fashioned piss-taking [and how!]) bans people for being physically threatening?

You are such a fabulously fucking moronic buffoon it is almost obsence.

A joke, a sinister, racist, antisemitic (admittedly, Mark, you're not a hateful man at all, just the fucking Usaian Bolt of misplaced intellectualism), emetic shit hole of a site.

You should be all deeply ashamed.

FGFM said...

Keep screaming into the void, FGFM. I'm sure someone cares.

Indeed.

"Cunt". Stay classy, you ill-bred, vulgar, angry, angry, angry, little man.

You fucking cunt.

Ron Santo said...

FGFM-

Who are you plagirising now, w/ "you may be right"? I've heard that one before.

Philip Larkin? Kingsley Amis? Someone like that. Your stolen wit seems to be improving at any rate. Who's
bon mots will you pass of as your own next? Greywolf's?

FGFM said...

You are such a fabulously fucking moronic buffoon it is almost obsence. [sic]

Ah, Frenchie.

Mark G said...

I was not threatening violence against him. I just want to confront him in person. Big difference, bud.

L said...

Mark, no you didn't you arse.

I provided a full link. Read it back (also the argument continued on at the subsequent posts - in which various others display their jaw-to-floor-smacking astonishment at your almost Olympian ignorance).

All my posts were faithful and true quotes in which I provided sauce too. Have a bit of self-respect. Don't. Be. A. Liar.

FGFM said...


Philip Larkin? Kingsley Amis? Someone like that. Your stolen wit seems to be improving at any rate. Who's
bon mots will you pass of as your own next? Greywolf's?


Bob Dylan.

FGFM said...

Don't. Be. A. Liar.

Suck. On. This.

Mark G said...

"A joke, a sinister, racist, antisemitic (admittedly, Mark, you're not a hateful man at all, just the fucking Usaian Bolt of misplaced intellectualism), emetic shit hole of a site."

Good, Louise. Just let it all out, Louie. Tell us what you really think. Don't hold back. We need to know what motivates your crazed antics.

L said...

"We need to know what motivates your crazed antics."

I kind of already have. I know you're not exactly TS Eliot when it comes to close-reading but, to get Seinfeld for a bit, c'mon!

You taught English? Profess yourself to be a Salinger fan and yet still fell (hook, line, bucket, bait, and wagon) for Taki's absurdly weak parody?

You are a joke. A self-regarding joke. Really, you are sub-literate.

Ron Santo said...

Fuck me, Mark? You mistake me for one of your libertated little leaguers. A drink first, at least, please. Some witty repartee too. Less of this hostility and self-righteousness. Maybe even dinner and a movie. Then we'll see.

L said...

"witless youtube auteur"

Seamus is a funny guy. He just is. Precise.

L said...

FGFM is giving his eerily good impression of Kanzi on Twitter at the moment. Park. ChinaTown. Say. What. You. See. For. Banana. Treat. You. Lesser. Ape.

http://twitter.com/fgfm

You are autistic, friend. And not in the sympathetic savant or even struggling empathetic sense - more in the hitting your mother possibly capable of sexually assaulting a neighbour so we should get tall wire fences and maybe a taser is castration too illiberal? kind of way.

Park. Helicopter. Autist. Donut.

Mark G said...

L loves Seamus. He is full of oats. For he on honey-dew hath fed, and drunk the milk of Paradise. He is hot stuff.

Ron, sorry if you got mixed up in all this. L is full of a bunch of nonsense.

Ron Santo said...

There does seem to be a history here I'm not entirely aware of, Mark. FGFM seems to have a bit more depth than L gives him credit for, even if FGFM's judgment and impulse control is questionable. The Woody Allen line about speed-reading War and Peace just because someone mentioned Russian is a conversation ruiner. Shows some smarts and agility, but is so off-key that elsewhere but the internet it would have been met w/ forced smiles, awkward glances at floor or ceiling and a barely polite stampede to the bar. And the Bob Dylan name-check? That relentlessly bourgeois caterwauler is every mediocrity's favorite poet/singer. It's Hitchens' great weakneSs, frankly, to have been bamboozled by that fraud. FGFM's excuse is probably the same as Hitchens'- 60's youth still digging the tunes of his time. Could be FGFM meant that one ironically, to match my "GreYwolf", but irony does not otherwise seem to be his strength. Either way, a bit boring.
Generally, this chat is far too angry and heated for my tastes. Tom does a good job keeping up w/ the doings of te usually interesting Hitchens, but this one seems to have got a bit out of hand. You and your CHW mate FGFM must be blamed here, as you blame your own interlopers for unpleasantness at CHW. The wages of trolling, I suppose.

Heywood Jeblome said...

What is your address? Let's square off, laughing boy.


It's just a handle, it isn't an offer.

Heywood Jeblome said...

Heywood, if you use this trite expression of letters just one more time, I might have to come after you. What is your address? Let's square off, laughing boy.


It's just a name, not an offer.

FGFM said...

Park. Helicopter. Autist. Donut.

Stalker.

FGFM said...

Shows some smarts and agility, but is so off-key that elsewhere but the internet it would have been met w/ forced smiles, awkward glances at floor or ceiling and a barely polite stampede to the bar.

Says the man on the Internet.

Anonymous said...

This just in:
Author Christopher Hitchens has canceled a talk he planned to give at 2 p.m. Sunday, June 27, at Kepler's bookstore in Menlo Park, Kepler's has announced.

"Due to a personal matter, Mr. Hitchens is unable to be in the Bay Area at this time," Kepler's said in an e-mail.

Kepler's said it hopes to reschedule the talk for later this summer.

Mr. Hitchens was to talk about his new memoir, "Hitch-22: Some Confessions and Contradictions."

Now, since it's quite obvious that CH is having some pretty severe health problems, could I request that the CHW people just go back to wherever they came from, so that those of us who admire him don't have to deal with all the pointless self-absorbed psychotic spew? If you want to do a premptive pee on CH's grave with your tiny little penises-fine. Just why not do it in your own little playpen, with friends who agree with you, and can appreciate your efforts.

If you only knew how ridiculous you appear to most people..

Anonymous said...

well said.

FGFM said...

If you only knew how ridiculous you appear to most people..

Most people would find Christopher Hitchens ridiculous.

FGFM said...

well said.

megadittos.

Anonymous said...

No dear. CH has written three NYT bestsellers, won an Ellie, was a finalist for the National Book Award, has been published by every mgazine and journal that matters in both Europe and the US, and gets paid tens of thousands of dollars for 90 minute public appearances--for a start.

You video your calloused feet in the bath tub for youtube.


You are ridiculous.

Now, go away.

FGFM said...

No dear. CH has written three NYT bestsellers, won an Ellie, was a finalist for the National Book Award, has been published by every mgazine and journal that matters in both Europe and the US, and gets paid tens of thousands of dollars for 90 minute public appearances--for a start.

I'm impressed!

You video your calloused feet in the bath tub for youtube.

Indeed.

You are ridiculous.

I reject that characterization.

Now, go away.

No.

Mark G said...

Will someone please tell us what the fuck is going on with Hitchens?

FGFM said...

Mark, you ought to give him a call.

Mike said...

Tom,
Why do you allow such nonsense to go on here? Surely you could delete the petty bickering and profanity-laced comments without being "undemocratic." This was originally a discussion about Hitchens's mysterious cancellations and the rumors concerning his health. I'm surprised that a major newspaper or wire service hasn't looked into the matter and done a story on it yet.

 
 
 

Christopher reads from Hitch-22: A Memoir